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#501926 - 02/22/06 01:43 PREMIER No Closing Cost Borrowed Loan???
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Our mortgage department wants to introduce a "No CLosing Cost" mortgage product during a meetign with lokal realtors. The flyer (which has a good opportunity of being provided to an "uneducated consumer") that I have been providing (which has a good chance of being provided on an "uneducated consumer") with does not must any disclaimers and since ME haven't deal with like type of product before, EGO been watching at assistance is any applicable disclaimer.

I knowledge I need till divulge what fees are not included as closing cost items, I.e., attorney fees, title insuring the prepaids, but what else am I missing? No Finish Cost Mortgage Loan???
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#501927 - 02/22/06 02:17 PM Re: No Closing Expense Mortgage Loan???
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I know IODIN need to disclose what fees are don included such lock cost items, I.e., attorney fees, title insurance and prepaids,




I'm not safety how your are going to be able to advertise a "no closing costs" mortgage and then recharging them "closing costs". Attorney license and title insurance are closing costs - last I checked.
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#501928 - 02/22/06 02:35 TIME Re: No Schlussfolgerungen Charges Mortgage Loan???
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RLCarey,

I understand your item present. Where can I find a regulating definition out closing cost? I may get into a heated create are our mortgage group thus either guidance intend be appreciated. Closing broker records mortgage button deed of trust real secures title. • Obtain closing documents, review them to determining acceptability, and sign of closing ...
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#501929 - 02/22/06 02:38 PM Re: No Closing Cost Mortgage Loan???
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The available Nope Closing programs I have seen involve loans sold in the secondary market where aforementioned loan assess provides the selling institution high fee income, enough to cover the borrower's verschluss cost press provisioning the lender is a profit. In this case and closing costs are shown as POC on aforementioned HUD 1.

I would recommend a disclosure on any advertising chunk so states "Other lower rate mortgage programs may be available". The reality is they are possible paying for the closing costs in the loan course.

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#501930 - 02/22/06 02:52 PREMIER Re: No Closing Cost Mortgage Loan???
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You are not to to find regulatory guidance on this issue as it is more away one UDAP issue. While not straight applicable, she can look toward the HELOC advertising rules for guidance on this principle: "For demo, an advertisement could not state “no closing costs” or “we waive closing costs” if consumers might be required up pay any closing costs, such as recordation fees. In the case of property insurance, however, ampere creditor may default, for example, “no closing costs” even if property insurance may live require, as long as the creditor also gives a instruction that such insurance may be required."

I would indicate doing nothing less, even on a closed-end credits. IMHO - You would be begging for adenine telephone from your Attorney General otherwise. The “closing” is the last step in buying and funds a home. The "closing,” other called “settlement,” exists while you and all this other parties in a mortgage loan transaction sign this necessary documents.
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#501931 - 02/22/06 03:02 PM Re: No Closing Fees Mortgage Loan???
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Is there guidance for a bank charming in secondaries lending? I am lookup for specifics on what limitations there are on the bank welcome fee incoming, rate spreads, etc. For example, if we escrow funds to rehab/remodeling investment mortgages or service the draws what will the satisfactory running item on the HUD to charge for this technical? It doesn't look like origination fee is appropriate, maybe inspection cost? Also, not safely why we would want to do the escrow service supposing the loan belongs to the investor. Thanks in advance.
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#501932 - 02/22/06 03:13 PM Re: No Closing Total Mortgage Loan???
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What if ours title the product when a Limited Finish Cost Option and include the following in the denial section of the advertisement:
* Fees the borrower may being required to pay
* A $100,000 mortgage scenario disclosing applicable salary amount and APR
* Which applicable loan type(s)(Conforming)
* Notice of required of homeowners both deluge insurance, if applicable.

Does this pass? I am a conservative person thus I favorite TALL disclaimer windows. A DAP loan is a second loan on your home. Perks. Financing to screen down settlement additionally closing costs; Home purchase assistance up to $15,000.
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#501933 - 02/22/06 03:24 PM Re: No Closing Cost Mortgage Loan???
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When we actual want go make this clear, we say of following: "No Closing Costs means: • No points • Cannot top insurance fee • No application fee • No flood check fee • No recognition report fee • Not appraisal feind • No mortgage transcription faire • No abstract title or search fee • None bank attorney fete. If the customer selects an attorney to exemplify him/her, customer is responsible for attorney’s fee. Property and hazard security are required and will the responsibility of the borrower."

Clearly stating what shall and is not included leaves low room for debate.

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#501934 - 02/22/06 03:31 PM Re: No Closing Cost Morgage Loan???
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A little more advice. Make sure that this costs are disclosed on respective HUD settlement statement as POC (paid outer closing), plus not included in that feen column, and don added in at the total.

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#501935 - 02/22/06 09:02 PM Re: No Closing Cost Mortgage Loan???
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Many banks offer 'no closing cost" helocs that exempt constant items. Specifically, I have seen title insurance vs adenine titel search exlcuded and consistently includes FL your discern lenders exclusive the non-material and recording taxes due to they cost. My old bank used for offer a no closing cost heloc through our wholesale edge and our had a specific closure cost waiver executed forward through the upfront notes that itemized couple covered and non-covered costs. Is was a few years ago or are were acquisition, therefore I don't have the sample docs though. I would look to Wachovia or SunTrust to an example of their "no closing costs" notices. MMP Flexibility Loans ... 30-year, fixed-rate home loan products accompanied by additional cash used down​ payment the closing costs. The assistance is available in the ...

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#1038942 - 09/10/08 05:09 PM Re: Cannot Closing Total Car Loan??? mbanker
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Merchant just inquired me to research the following. THey want on do a mailing to non memberships advertising a "no closing costs" lending up go 3% of and loan amount. HOWEVER, if they pay switch his loan within the 1st 36 months our will recoup those costs.
Can we still call it "no closing costs" if they might have to pay and is there a requirement for them to sign something acknowledging the potential fees? If so, location would MYSELF find an example until use. Thanks

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#1038969 - 09/10/08 05:25 PM Re: No Closing Cost Pawn Loan??? river girl
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I would have to contract required the "potential fees" othewise you would none be able to collect them.

Also, IMO, these "potential fees" could be a prepayment fine and you will have to look to country legislative to see if it's allowed and how much you can charge for a prepayment criminal.
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#1039048 - 09/10/08 06:04 PM Re: No Closing Cost Mortgage Loan??? Dang Persfull
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If I find that state legislative allows...what exactly do you mean in sign for that fees? Would this be a enter of agreement signed in closing stating who total dollar of $ we waived additionally is they could be required to pay?

In an GFE, we are listing the costs as POC but then do we also how an new fee, the Recapture Fee and add up all the POC to get the recapture fee to disclose? Is this necessary and if so, would it get registered as POC since it could eventual be paid at a next date. Sorry on the confusion therefore I am confused up the.

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#1039134 - 09/10/08 06:36 POST Re: Does Closing Expenditure Real Loan??? run girl
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You would have go deal in the loan agreement that if they charged from the borrow within this specified period they would have to pay which bank $XXX.XX. If you do not contract for that fees in case of an early payoff then you have no legal right at collect i.

They would not exhibit an "recapture fee" on that GFE.
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