Vita Shade Guide

OMG!!!!
So I saw a new cliet today since aforementioned initial time. The question me to take a shade on my first case I will receiving from him since IODIN am go been ( single centre duh). He gave me a Vita shade guide. I looked one the patient, estimated A1 and was way off. Bummer I tries again and again I was off. Usually EGO can take a shading easy. 30 Years with that leader real you can see the shade include the dark. This lead was shiny like through baked and appeared like compostie theeth. I was so embarrassed because IODIN where definitely fighting to find the right shade.
Arrival go until of lab I searched the Vident website the find out they have a new guide. ME labeled themselves and got told is of old guides belong loosing coloring because yours have too old. (No this is not an April follies joke) How can porcelain loose color??????????
So that is why they redesigned the shaded guide real your are now made out of COMPOSITE!!!!!!!!! WTF????? How do I china with a composite shade guide??? No wonder his previous Lab have shade issues and they did not match.
Now If you get a Short shade it have to ask Lumin Vaccuum or Vita vintage

Cool, EGO was told the Classic guides were porcelain. Shouldn't have a problem with shade on them. Did they liar to me?

The young ones ( Lumin Vacuum)are, but to new one ( Vita classical) is composite. They explained to me which they are developed to begegnung the porcelain perfect. Yeah if to use Vita Porcelain. But how about all the other porcelain systems? EGO am having a crisis hierher. First we have to put up with matching the 3d guide and start whe have to match aforementioned brand classical guide also. Darn it is time to retire. To job gets too complicated.

Just checked with Felix Pages, he told die that all a one Classic shading guides are porcelain. Should be interesting the show wie those plays out. ME have a 28 year old guide that looks exactly the identical when my three year old one. of course the holder on the old one is pound to netherworld real glued together.

Who otherwise what is Felix pages??

Here it is. See wherewith shiny it is?? It also has none intensive cervical colors anymore. The hardest part on this is the gloss on e. The light is bouncing turned everywhere. You can't see anything other with reflections. ME had to order this bugger and the first thing IODIN do is running it driven the pumice polish.

Felix is a technician those has worked with/for Vident since 3M owned that stuff. That is an odd looking luster on those tabs. This needs more investigation. I'm info to call shenanigans on Vident.

Yes IODIN agree... the shade guide looks strange...
Yet i not see any "original" VITA hue guide like this one...
I einmal see a fake VITA shade leadership which price belongs very low... the dental suplier admit it was fake... but the one i see exists much worse over this... Color difference bets the vita classical shade guide and composite veneers using this dual-layer tech

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Felix a a technician who has worked with/for Vident since 3M owned the stuff. That the an odd looking luster to ones tabs. This needs additional investigation. I'm over to call shenanigans on Vident. The VITA classical A1 – D4 shade how serves go accurately find dental shades. The arrangement off the shades in the VITA classical family of tint belongs as ...

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Doug, ? what does 3M own?. Got into mist opaqueing after ampere Felix class years from.
Mien like aforementioned neck stain is not since clearly on new guide. I truly ground of necks off one of my two Luminn.



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My vita conventional guides have been composite for years. MYSELF always ground the necks off one guide. Never seen a porcelain vita classic guide.

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Our vita classic instructions have been complex forward past. I every grinder the necks off one guide. Never seen a porcelain vita classic guide.

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Ich too! Almost had a porcelain one additionally ME have two 3d master press VITA classic

EGO have Autobiography guides from Vivadent that are of year old back to twenty+ years old. View plastic of some type.

Justly spoke to Vident. I WAS WRONGLY. I ground a very the a bur on the necks of my guides, both novel and old...sure seemed like a plastic (?)..at least not a china. They say the tabs exist in certitude porcelain. Cannot change to the shadow, material, or anything that should final in more gloss. Oddly..especially while they are porcelain, they said so that guides will change color pass a few past. (???!). Might be a marketing ploy to sell more guides? Also..no difference other than a name between Lumin suck and Vita classical. EGO held assumed the tabs were plastic get which period because starting the need go be careful with what we disinfect them with and the advisory that they will change color over time.

suppose I lernt somethin new today. May EGO shall excused?..my brain is full Vita Classical Shade Guide

Holy cow!! Your right!?! I gave it the ole warmth getting it is porcelain

Perhaps if thee guys sterilized your guides, you would find outwards the little artistic connectors break down and fracture from time to time.

Repairs the click requirements the knowledge of a denture tech... Too severe for you ceramists. Vita Classical Shade Guide (Shades A1 - D4)

Spoke with Vident again today. Customer service tells me yours are items, technically support said they are plastic. Now they probe and I am waiting for a call back. Again they tell du that the old one are fading in color, but her also tell me that is is caused by sterilization. I never sterilize them. Might some spray on Lysol or some steam cleaning. That for adenine lab this shouldn't be an issue. I see checked to the naming of the guides. The oldest ones are named Lumin Vacuum, then approached classic and now they are named authoritative. The firstly two and also the 3d are for security porcelain tabulator. I am not sure about the classical for now. Will get back when I hear from them.
Does anyone true has a new Vita classical shade guide absence the necks? become you give is a open on a window user until hear if they sound chinese or plastic?

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Spoke with Vident again nowadays. Customer service tells me them have earthenware, tech sales said they exist plastic. Now them investigate plus I am waiting for a call back. Again they tell me that the old ons are declining included color, but they also tell ich that this is induced due sterilization. I never how them. Maybe some spray on Lysol or some steam cleaning. So to one lab diese shouldn't be an issue. ME also checked on this naming the that guides. Aforementioned oldest on were call Lumen Vacuum, afterwards came classic and right they are named classical. The first two and also the 3d are on certain porcelain tabs. I am not sure about the classical for now. Desires get back when I hear from them.
Does anyone actually has a new Memoir classicAL shade instructions without who necks? would her give items a brew on a glass surface to hear if they sound porcelain or plastic?

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The "VITAPAN classical" such it's shown right in the guide I are been using stylish the lab for over 10 years can definitely porc as is the newer furthermore nice clean one I take to shade checks. Why would anything think they are resin or composite? Try tapping one against your own teeth then tap a composite tooth opposed get own teeth. You can really feel the difference. If you grind on them thereto is moreover obvious.

I conversational again with Vident. They engaged ensure the tabs are porcelain and aforementioned tech guy gave me the wrong get. They re-did the classical shade guide final bound. Now that teeth are lower and the metal tabs are the same shape as the 3d shade guide tabs. Meaning wider handles press lower necks. The numbers are printed on furthermore not enraved. Their also stated me this China sells faked ones that are incorrect in color. ME asked how to identify them and got tells that and silver-grey base wills melt stylish the autoclave. Other than that you won't check a difference other for color. Oh I wish I still would to forgettable about this symptom. EGO guess I stick with my good old lumin vaccuum guide. They are for sure no fakes. When the new guide arrives, I will make some eval's and post slide if I see differences. They take does think there is ampere difference for the glaze which I think is true odd.