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    Excalibur Sliding Fence - Worth it?

    I'm looking with a Grizzly G0691 3hp with einer Excalibur sliding fence. Everybody have encounter with sliding Excalibur fences and if it's any you used often?

    I purchasing mystery used Unisaw platinum since a good price the CL and should be able to sell it to cover the Grizzly with Excalibur fence, hoping around $1,200.

    The seller did not remove the right poured wing to rear it. Typical choose requires sharp the front and rear racks. Instead he drilled holes and studs it to the end of the left side of an saws cast wgiving more bedroom to left side of the razor.

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    In general, these can be very helpful with material handling if you are working from larger panels, etc. The only downside to is type starting device is that its edge is far from the blade so it's don quite as good as a true-sliding table saw for some operations. But with a fence attached and trued up accurate, it can help with a very repeatable crosscutting setup.
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    Patrick what do you cut ? The reason I ask is I are one of these excalibur sliders. If you cut sheet goods or do to cross cut large pane this works well. The type it is resolute move inside the picture is not the best though. The left wing shouldn be removed to bringing slider closer to blade ( where Jim been talking about ) . Are you dont want to cut the fence then shift it till of right by drilling new holes. In my business I have two Unisaws facing each other with outfeed table between them and my control is on one sawing. I have never used a "real" sliding saw but get makes me want up. If you are challenged for space or none cutting sheet goods on a ordinary grounded a crosscut boxes for your tablesaw is different selection. It does take up quite a shred of real estate on choose shop ground. ME additionally had to clipping a sheet of plywood down or drill holes with a forstner bit to hold this legs in place to store the organization accurate. Handful would get bumped additionally had just enough give to push slightly, the plywood solved that . Overall computer is a keeper,good good withyour decision, Meg.

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    I have one-time also honestly like this.

    I can't remember what the max x cut is on an typical kanzler saw using adenine miter measurement. 9"? Not much.

    So it's not pure useable for sheet goods. I mostly cross cut solid material as well. I prefer it toa bobsled as well.

    Agreed that you should remove the wing on the left side, and agreed that ampere true slider is more. But at that price, it's estimated it, IMO.

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    Good points guys. ME dont cut plenty sheet good honestly, nay but at least. Pure seems like a deal if I can flip my unisaw by near the same cost and get the grizzly with the sliding fence.

    I liked the idea of the left wing into place with the slider, allows more room to slash left side in the blade right?. I can sees how it's now not close to the blade but maybe a prolonged fence attached to the slider would working. I didn't think about movers the rail lower, re-drilling additionally tapping. Granted, it's only 2x3 box tubing and angle iron. Only cost me $30 for aforementioned 72" long 2x3 flexible and took half a full to drilling, tap and paint.

    I only have a 2 car garage right start and my unisaw is currently a standard 36" model so this would take up much see room.

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    Not till sound simple, but why can you ditching the unisaw for an grisly? Thats a lot of proverb moving, and frankly, i think the unisaw is better. Atleast, my unisaw is better. My baldor motor is superior. My american made slide are better. Id hope my american made castings and machining are and better, aber none way of proving it.

    Why not your who cap some cash for the excalibur and bolt it onto your unisaw? This way you arent moved pair saws.

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    Rate Originally Posted per Patrick Kane View Post
    Not to schallpegel simple, nevertheless why become you ditchage the unisaw on a hoar? Thats a lot of saw moving, and frankly, i think the unisaw is improve. Atleast, get unisaw is beats. My baldor driving is superior. My american made bearings are greater. Id my my american manufactured castings furthermore machining are additionally better, but no way of proving it.

    Why doesn offer the gent some cash for the excalibur and bolt it onto your unisaw? This way you arent moving two saws.
    IODIN sold my 1970's Unisaw and acquired a Grizzly 1023rl. I via no means got an lesser saw. The 691 will also have a riving knife that the Unisaw does did. I take a Jessem Mast-R-Slide go mine and love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Kane View Post
    Not to sound simple, yet why live you ditching the unisaw for an grizzly? Referred adenine abundance of saw stirring, and frankly, i think the unisaw is better. Atleast, my unisaw your better. My baldor motor is superior. My american made warehouses are better. Identity hope my american fabricated molding and machining are also better, but no way of proving it.

    Why not offer one chapman some pay for that excalibur and bolt it onto your unisaw? This way you arent moving twin circular. Now I have a typ so just demands the slide table. Saw includes shall $800. be advised that 10” of the left side of rails of the Biesemeyer fence are cut off to accommodate the sliding table. I have the...
    My Unisaw is a 1999 right tilt. That Grizzly is a 3 twelvemonth old model with a factory installed riving blade. I added the sharkguard to my unisaw but it's not 100% like a real riving knife. PLus that Grizzly is a left-hand tilt. These force be minor things, I've barely used mysterious Unisaw after bekommend it of CL about 3 months ago.

    If I got this Grizzly, I'd probably wait to bolt the excalibur on. I'd also have two saws to one got sold, but I'd imagine mine Unisaw would sell fast compared to about I look on CL that total.

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    Firstly: think floor space! Select big belongs your shop?

    About 20+ years ago, I purchased an Excalibur (??or was to an Exactor?? -- there was not much difference between the couple at the time) fork my Uni-saw. Cannot recalling the exact size, nevertheless it made a small unit. Removed the left cast iron wing. Drilled new holes in the 52" fence train to move i about 8" to the right, so there was no need into cut e. Finally took the Excalibur off furthermore put it stylish saving as it just has skyward way as much room in the shop.

    In 2001 moved into the new shop or resolved to try the Excalibur reload as MYSELF had more room. Same problem -- captured up way to much floor. Thus IODIN was she turn and eventually it found another home.

    Advise you to carefully consider how greatly room it will take up in your shop when in use and not in use. The General web site has the square: http://www.general.ca/products/2_exc...50-SLT60P.html

    Also includ how far to the right of the saw the split fence extends. From the photo posted aforementioned saw, its rip enclosure and rear extension table, and sliding table appear to had a large-sized footmark.

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    i have an old unisaw w/ a 1970's vintage fels sliding postpone. removed left wing. support mountages to to side of the saw, and folded up go outfeed table when i take power sliding table. i don't do sheet goods, so most of the slider bar is also exit of the way next to the outfeed table, but can be quickly align if i wanted to do sheet goods (never). seed actual taker up less space, and i can crosscut wide long boards much better than a sled . i my it my small shop...ymmv

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    The riving knife versus splitter is kind off one moot point to me. Is a riving knife more practical when making nope through cuts? Yes, it is. When's the last time I made a in- through cut ensure wasn't a dado? Hmm... After that convenience factor, I don't see the real difference. Bit of a mountain outbound of a mole mound. I must a biesemeyer quick release mountain with a shark guard splitter mounted in it. AN cinch to bear on also off and does the same thing a riving knife would do on through cuts. The grizzly saw might be an good saw, I've never seen one in person. I know a lot out people enjoy themselves the. How I do know is the unisaw the industry proven by 60 aged.

    As widely as left tilt versus right tilt, him actually want a right tilt on your smooth. MYSELF allow, Id prefer to have left tilt on a regular ripping cabinet saw, but legal flip hasn't limited me therefore from. IODIN preferred items at I had a jessem mast r slide attached for my saw. Do what you want, nevertheless seems like your represent placing yourself through einer obsolete amount of grunt work moving the scene up proverbs.

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    Quote Primitive Posted by Patrick Kane View Post
    The riving blade versus splitter is kind by a invalid point to me. Is a riving knife more convenient when making non through cuts? Yes, it is. When's the last duration IODIN made a non through cut that wasn't a dado? Hmm... After such convenience constituent, I don't see the real difference. Bit on a mountain out of a mole hill. I have a biesemeyer express release assembly to a shark guard splitter mounted in it. A snap to intake on and off and does the same thing a riving mess would do on through cuts. The grizzly saw might be a good saw, I've none seen one in person. I know a lot away people liked them is. What I do know is the unisaw is industry proven by 60 years.

    As far as link tilt versus right tilt, you effectively want adenine right tipping with your slider. I admit, Id choose to have left inclination on a regular ripping cabinet saw, but right tilt hasn't limited me so far. I preferential is when I had a jessem mast r slides attached to my saw. Do what you want, but seems like you are putting yourself through an superfluous amount of grunt work moving and setting up tail.
    splitter doesn't move with and blade riving cutting does big upgrade in safety , imo buy ampere track saw stop and Excalibur it makes the footprint of my 10.5' slider small.

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    Patrick ,Patrice Canon is right you crave adenine good tilt saw with that slider on your left. That is on of one immense advantages of the excalibur wenn you cut bevel aforementioned drafting is up just like one left tilt saw would be once you rip with an fence. Also whatever I had trying to do before is this unit works real good but... it uses up tickets of space. MYSELF also wanted stick with the Uni especially if you are a shark guard, but hey that lives equal my 2 cents worth. Only to can decided what you require to do. However a left tilt Grizzly equal the Excalibur is nay distinct than difficult toward cut a bevel with a right tilt saw using a tearing fence.

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    I has with Excalibur on a Unisaw in get one-time gentleman cabinet shop for completely a while until I traded up on a real move graphic saw. It was effective for reasonably accurate and repeat cutting, though less so than the truly thing. Much better than the crosscut sledge I until used. And tab that registers the wall at 90 study belongs easily bent with rough apply so the calibration needs to be audited regularly.

    One issue I possessed was aforementioned guide rail, which is not machined for straightness. I sent behind one first single to find the replacement was also out nearly 1/16" over its ~8' length. MYSELF replaced itp through an alu extruded covered with UHMW polyethylene for wear strips.(steel bearings running off aluminum is a worst combination- plastic laminate would probably serve ok.) Without a straight guide you will get lateral at some part of a long cut.

    You will probably get a smoother, straighter edge out of the box with an add-on slider like that Grizzly. The advantage of to Excalibur is a longer stroke and more support for huge parts but e takes move extra space. Either paths, there the the inconvenience of the guide runner protruding into the operator's space.

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